Become a Better Speaker with These Small Changes

Lindsay Boccardo

Lindsay Boccardo is a keynote speaker and workplace coach specializing in generational dynamics and leadership development. With a background in psychology and over a decade of experience, Lindsay assists leaders in bridging generational gaps, fostering connection, and thriving without compromising their well-being.

 She is also the national host of the first public speaking club ever, Mic Drop Club!

WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE

Whether stepping onto a keynote stage or leading a team meeting, these tips will help you show up with confidence, clarity, and authenticity.

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Amplify with Jess is produced by Earfluence, and brought to you by Mic Drop Workshop.

TRANSCRIPT

How to Crush Your Speeches in 2025

[00:00:00] Jess Ekstrom: Hi everyone! Welcome to our LinkedIn Live! Uh, I just put my dog in my bedroom so he won’t bark, my baby is down for a nap, he might make a cameo if he wakes up, but let’s hope he keeps sleeping. Uh, let’s get a quick temperature in the room. How many of you, okay, on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being, uh, like, terrified of public speaking, do not even want to, like, give your order at the drive thru.

10, being like, oh, I could go up in front of 20, 000 people in two minutes and my heart rate would not change. So 1, being terrified. 10, being public speaking is a walk in the park. Tell me what you are in the chat. I would say I mean, you might think I might be a 10 considering this is what I do for a living, but I would say I’m probably a 5.

I still get pretty nervous every round and every now and then. Okay, we got, uh, Lori. Hey, Lori is a 7. We got Beth, an 8. Dana, a 9. Man, we got some confident people in here. Kristen, for Being a four, we need more fours out there. Julie nine. We got some people who are crushing it, um, in public speaking, but yet you might not always feel this way.

I know sometimes when I’m talking on a new topic or to a new group, like the nerves, um, start getting to me and whether you’re speaking professionally, whether you’re speaking at work, whether you’re speaking at your kids, like PTA meeting public speaking, I think it’s just. Becoming more and more important in the age of AI and screens, like that in person interaction needs to matter.

I, you know, started Mic Drop Workshop. I love helping people figure out what they want their keynote to be, monetizing it, getting paid to speak. But I’ll tell you, for me to get better at delivery of speaking, I had to learn from the best. And in my book, the best is my friend, the best. Lindsay Bacardo.

Hello.

[00:05:08] Lindsay Boccardo: Yes! Thanks for being here. You are multitasking, making it all happen. We are

[00:05:15] Jess Ekstrom: multitasking. But no joke, I mean, you are one of the most captivating speakers out there so I figured we could take the time, the next like 30 minutes or so, to talk about what are some small things that people can do um That make a big difference in our speaking, and then we have a fun, exciting announcement for you all that will hit it like the 20 minute mark.

I know Dana, you have to go, so maybe we’ll hit it at the, at the 19. Um. So, and we have some, uh, some questions in the chat that we’ll also get to, but

[00:05:51] Music: what do you

[00:05:51] Jess Ekstrom: think first, Lindsay, should, where should we head first? Should we talk about mindset? What’s, actually, would you mind giving an introduction to, to people who don’t know you?

Yeah,

[00:06:00] Lindsay Boccardo: absolutely. So my experience on stage did not start as a speaker. It started as a drummer, hitting things with sticks. Boom. I’m looking for my sticks right now. My kids right over there. And I realized even when I didn’t speak, I didn’t say a single word. That people were picking up on how I showed up on stage.

And even if I was playing like a really simple drum beat, just like a straight dude, gut, dude, gut. If I just looked like I was having a blast, people like, you’re amazing. I’m like, I just look like a Muppet right now. And that’s exciting to you. And I very quickly understood that our nonverbal communication communicated even more than the words coming out of our mouth.

And so when I was asked to start. Speaking in the group that I was working with at the time I started to go on stage. I practiced not just the content, but how do I show up and how do I express myself? And that was a journey. Jess, I’m actually an introvert. I thought it was so interesting that you said you’d be a five out of 10 because I’m on the same page.

I got to gear up. I don’t show up all the time. Like

[00:07:06] Jess Ekstrom: some people in the chat and this is a, are saying like I’m a 10 until I get on stage and then I’m a three. And that’s honestly me. I feel like I’m. A ten until I’m at sound check, you know, or I am like about to speak and then I get closer to a five. Yeah, you

[00:07:24] Lindsay Boccardo: know, it’s very unnatural for a human to look hundreds of other humans in the face.

It’s even musicians that we love the lead singer of Maroon 5, Adam Levine is a perfect example. I don’t know if you love him, but I think he’s an unbelievable performer. And he said, I think he

[00:07:42] Jess Ekstrom: cheats on his wife. So, you know,

[00:07:44] Lindsay Boccardo: not happy about that part,

[00:07:46] Jess Ekstrom: but the performance part. Great. Yeah.

[00:07:49] Lindsay Boccardo: The stage presence and forget his decision making.

He said every night before I go on stage, I imagine that everybody in the arena loves me. Now think about how he shows up because he believes that he is welcomed into that space versus being like, Oh, I hope this goes okay. Is the sound check. He knew how important that piece was. And so that’s all I’ve been doing.

And since the moment that I left stage as a drummer, I started my. Speaking career, and I usually speak on generations at work, and you can imagine it’s very important that I’m aware of my body language, my tone, my content, because I’m talking about a sensitive subject with boomers, Gen Z’s in the room, where I learned to master the craft of performance.

And I think it’d be interesting, Jess, can I ask you a question? Because. Sometimes we confuse performance and authenticity. Like I have to pick one or the other. Yes. I found with my practice of my nonverbal skills. That I actually get to be more authentic. I’m not playing a game with people. I’m learning how to fully show up, but I’m curious.

What do you think about that?

[00:08:57] Jess Ekstrom: Well, it’s funny because we have a question right here from Dana, how to appear more energetic without feeling like a game show host on crack. I love this question because on one hand, like you want to be authentic. And then on the other hand, you want to be able to captivate.

The people in the room. Um, and so I like to think of for me, I am turning up the volume on myself. And so instead of thinking, Oh, I’m going to step into a role and it’s like, I’m just over here and now I’m speaker. Jess. I’m like, I’m still going to be Jess over here, but I’m going to be a little bit louder.

I’m going to be a little bit more animated. And so instead of thinking about like, what’s my alternate like persona and the role that I need to step into, I like to think of like, how do I turn up the volume on myself? Um, I’ll give an example. When I was filming my, like, LinkedIn learning course, um, I was at their, like, beautiful LinkedIn studios in Santa Barbara, and, um, we had about a couple hours left, but we finished the filming, and they were like, we could call it a day, or you could film some of these courses again, and just go nuts, like, we already got it, what if you just went home.

Like, if you gave us your nine, give us your 12, like give us your 15, you know, get up into the game. And so I did that because I had nothing to lose. I was like, well, we already got the cut we need, but amplifying myself and like turning up the volume on myself was ended up being the takes that we used.

And to Dana’s point, it didn’t come off as like game show hosty because I wasn’t trying to be someone else. I was being me.

[00:10:49] Lindsay Boccardo: That’s right. What about you? You nailed it. I think that you, that’s exactly it. It’s not about you come on the stage and you’re like, hello, I am now going into my alter ego. It’s actually what you said.

It’s the skill. And it is a skill of turning up the dial without becoming self conscious, really turning the dial up in service. of the people that are watching you. And sometimes we think authenticity is I’m just going to be exactly me on stage but then you’re not thinking about being in service of the people that are there.

And you and I know that, like, for an example, if I’m in front of two people I’m not going to be like, da da da What’s up everybody? But if I’m in front of a bunch of kindergartners And I’m the, I’m going to tell them a story and there’s 300 of them, I better have running shoes on, I better be ready to be in service of my audience.

And I think that’s something that I know you really care about that we connect heart to heart on, is that we don’t become speakers. For the applause, although it’s really nice to have a job that people clap for us and like actually clap, we do it in service of our audience and sometimes we can get that reversed.

Like, I hope they like me and instead it’s I have something really important that I want to share that I know will change your perspective and potentially your life. And that’s that mindset. And I know you’ve got a lot to say about this too. You’ve got some amazing analogies around this, but I think that’s the difference is I’m turning the dial up in service of the people that are here.

[00:12:20] Jess Ekstrom: Yeah. Lindsay and I were trying to narrow it down beforehand and we’re like, what are the three tips that we want you all to know when it comes to public speaking? Because if you have this huge checklist, it’s like, you’re going to go up there and be like, like Ricky Bobby, like, I don’t know what to do with my hands.

So, uh, that first tip is around mindset, and we like to call this the difference between being a spotlight speaker and a lighthouse speaker. So a spotlight speaker goes up on stage with the spotlight on them. And when I say on stage, this could also be like You know, in a meeting or whatever it might be and saying, I want to be liked.

How do I look? How am I being perceived? What do people think of me? I want to be perfect. It is all in the favor of me. But a lighthouse speaker shifts the light from themself to the audience. Say, it’s not about me. Like, if I have stuff in my teeth, like, That sucks, but who cares? Because it is about the audience.

What do they need? What are they struggling with? And how can I use my story to help them get there? So that first step around like the mindset of speaking is like, am I doing this for me? Or am I doing this for them? And the more you do it for them, the more you do it as a Lighthouse speaker, the better you will become.

as a speaker. But that also has to do with the prep work that you put behind it. That’s right. Is where you come in, Lindsay. Yeah.

[00:13:44] Lindsay Boccardo: Yeah. So the second, you know, the second tip that we want to give us, you know, confidence comes with repetition and preparation. Sometimes I think we believe that like, Oh, I’m just not a confident person.

I wish a fairy godmother would come down and bestow it upon me so that I could get on stage. And you and I know just after Thousands of speeches and presentations that that type of confidence, which is basically, I know I’m going to get the result that I’m planning for when I go up that comes through earning it.

No one has missed out. And that means you’re warming up and you’re practicing. Every time you are warming up before you go into the meeting, before you go into Girl Scouts, even something as silly as that when you’re presenting to a bunch of girls, cause that’s the most stressful place for me.

[00:14:29] Jess Ekstrom: I’m more scared to present to Girl Scouts than I am like CEOs.

But Joanna also has an interesting comment here. People don’t know if you’re truly confident or if you’re faking it until you’re making it, they can’t tell the difference. So we might as well pretend that we got this. I love that.

[00:14:45] Lindsay Boccardo: I love that. Yeah. Well, and you know, as women, Aren’t we told, like, let’s be honest, aren’t we told, keep it small.

Don’t take up all the space. Oh, people are going to think you’re arrogant and cocky. And the other thing, I know that if I walk in and I’m like, I’ve got you, I’ve got this, this is going to be phenomenal, that people actually can take a breath. We need to hold that room. And so that second tip about making sure you’re warmed up.

You know your intention. What am I trying to create in this room in this moment? I’m trying to motivate the Girl Scouts to sell more cookies this year. I’ve got to give them a strong enough vision to do that. So that’s my intention is to motivate them in that way. And then making sure that you’re warmed up.

And here’s why more than ever think about how you and I spend six to seven hours of our day. You know how we spend it

like when you’re doing this, let me show you behind the scenes is what you look like.

[00:15:38] Jess Ekstrom: Like, hunchback of Notre Dame, like, yeah. Like

[00:15:42] Lindsay Boccardo: this, technic. And your, your face, no one is like, expressing. And so a lot of us, unconsciously, have a flat affect. You are walking around the world with tech face, where now you’re used to not mirroring other people.

And so, when I go in, and I know this because I’m an introvert too, which is hard to believe, I know, but, When I go into a space before I go in, I will stretch my face. I will do like Jim Carrey level warmups. And you and I both just, we’ve got vocal warmups that we do. We’ve got to flip all these expression switches before we come into the space because our world turns us into little people like this.

And so it does that’s where your confidence comes from prep and warm up

[00:16:30] Jess Ekstrom: and there’s some really uh, Great thoughts here in the chat. I love this one from tara public speaking is like karaoke if you have acid everyone cringes But if you own the stage like you were born to belt out bohemian rhapsody Even if you screw up, people will cheer you on.

Confidence beats perfection every time.

[00:16:50] Lindsay Boccardo: Nail them in.

[00:16:51] Jess Ekstrom: Retweet. And then, um, this one I think was great too. Seems like confidence is knowing your message will reach who it’s meant for and that sometimes it won’t be. Um, I’m curious, Lindsay, like when you speak and I’ll share my experience too, and you feel like I got this woman over here and I got this person, but like, this person is like checked out.

They are like, you know, doing words with friends on their phone or, or they’re just like giving you tech face. What do you do? Yeah. In that moment when you feel like you don’t, Have everyone.

[00:17:30] Lindsay Boccardo: I think that it is the expectation whatever room you’re in that you will not have everyone

[00:17:36] Music: life

[00:17:37] Lindsay Boccardo: is What it is. We all know how intense life is right now, and I just make the assumption I believe the best about that person so I don’t create a negative thought process It’s like if somebody’s like this in the back of the room, I’m like Oh, their dog must be at the vet and they’re making sure that the surgery went well.

I just like make up a story in my mind. And I assume that that person has a really good reason for not paying attention. The other option I have is to be like, how rude and now how does that throws you off? Yeah, exactly. So almost like, let me already start shouting out Mel Robbins cause I’m obsessed to let them theory.

Like. Let them now I’m going to be careful because that doesn’t like excuse me from not trying or being like if they’re going to listen They’re going to listen if not there. I’m going to do my darn best to engage you and if they’re in it also depends It’s on the age of the people and the situation that I’m in.

So this weekend I have a keynote for 700 people. If there’s a table that’s distracted and they’re making a lot of noise and they’re college students who I freaking love and their advisors and the people that are like in their thirties, forties, fifties, sixties, and they’re all distracting the group in my keynote, I’m going to be talking while putting my physical body near that table.

And you know what’s going to happen when I get near that table?

[00:18:55] Jess Ekstrom: They’re going to be like,

[00:18:57] Lindsay Boccardo: Teacher. Who’s here. Oh, he’s right here. Yeah. Exactly. So you also can use your presence as a tool for attention to keep the attention in the right spot as well.

[00:19:07] Jess Ekstrom: And I will say on top of like the let them theory, let them feel, I, I’ve done the same thing where, um, I’ve made up stories, someone’s sleeping in the audience and I’m like, oh, they must have a newborn baby at night and they’re just up with them five times.

Yeah.

[00:19:21] Lindsay Boccardo: Yes.

[00:19:21] Jess Ekstrom: I come up with a story too.

[00:19:23] Lindsay Boccardo: That’s it. But

[00:19:23] Jess Ekstrom: I will also say. You don’t know based on someone’s facial expression or even what they’re doing. Like if what they’re, you’re making the assumption of what they think about you. And I’ve been so wrong in that. I’ve spoken to like police force before. I’ve spoken to military.

They were giving me nothing. Absolutely no laughs, no nods, no facial expressions. And I was like crumbling because I was like, I just can’t, I’m not getting it. I’m not getting to them. And they loved it. I remember after I spoke at the Las Vegas police force, you know, they lined up to get their book signed and I got to the first man.

And, um, I said, you know, who do you want me to make this out to? Thinking it was like their daughter or their wife. And he was like, uh, Bill? Like points to his name tag. I was like, oh my gosh! And that whole time I thought I lost them just because I was trying to interpret their facial expressions. So I’ll go a step further than let them and say, don’t even try to like interpret what they are thinking or something because you just don’t know.

Like don’t spend the, the mental energy and talking about energy. There’s been a lot of questions about energy on stage, which you are so good at. Um, so let’s talk about how do you bring the energy And not just in a way that’s authentic to you, that’s the right tone, um, talk about energy on speaking.

[00:20:57] Lindsay Boccardo: Okay, so there’s a couple pieces to this, and Jess and I text about this all the time.

The number one thing for energy, just because it sounds so weird, is like hydration. Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate, drink tea. Take care of your voice. It sounds really, exactly. Oh, a water bottle. Hey, I need to get you

[00:21:14] Jess Ekstrom: a branded one.

[00:21:15] Lindsay Boccardo: I’m going to take it everywhere. Okay. I’ll tell you, this is so silly, but more than like eating protein and I’m a protein girl.

Is making sure that you’re hydrated, especially if you’re traveling to hotels, you’re on planes, drink water on the plane, drink wine. I’ll forgo the diet coke. I can’t believe I’m saying that our friend Katie is going to be so mad at me, but you’re going to just drink and get enough fluids in because as soon as you get a little bit dehydrated, your brain gets fuzzy and your energy will show up differently.

So that’s like a very silly piece of the hack, but it’s really important. I’m sure you didn’t expect me to say water. The other piece we talk about energy. Just like if you’re watching the football games right now, if you’re a football fan or basketball fan know what Caitlin Clark or, you know, somebody from the Chiefs, they don’t come out on the field.

The first time they’re on the field is not when the game starts, they’re

[00:22:03] Music: building

[00:22:03] Lindsay Boccardo: up their energy to that moment. So I know I already said this, but making sure you’re warmed up. The other thing is that when you’re on stage, you think that you just went, wow, and this is what you did. Wow. That’s your perception of how ridiculous you were.

You think you went like, I got this. And what you really did with this and I have this myself, that’s it. And so you also need to watch videos of yourself. And see like, Oh my gosh, I thought that was huge. I thought that gesture really made a difference and it was like this big.

[00:22:39] Jess Ekstrom: Yeah.

[00:22:39] Lindsay Boccardo: We talk about like, even things like being clean in your gestures, which I just need complete the gesture.

If you’re going to point to me and you’re like, I did it myself. You can’t go, I did it myself. You have to go, I did it myself. You have to be really crisp and show. And it’s just that little bit. If you’re a dancer, you know, this, you know, when dancers are going through rehearsals and they’re like five, six.

seven, eight, and they’re doing like this. And then the real thing, they’re like completing five, six, seven, you have to practice like you mean it and gesture like you mean it. And you’ll get that feedback on video too. You’re going to go, Oh my gosh, I really thought I nailed it. And I didn’t. So it really doesn’t take me to be honest.

I know it looks like I have a lot of energy. If you saw like my blood work, you’d be like, you shouldn’t have as much energy. You’re anemic. You’ve got it. The secret is repeating your gestures and making them bigger than you think you need to. What do you think about this Jess? Hydration. I think it’s

[00:23:32] Jess Ekstrom: true and I’ll, I’ll say, um, when you practice, hold a mic or hold a clicker because, um, you might be like practicing in your room like this and then when you get to the opportunity.

And you have to hold something and you’re like, uh, you know, and, and so practice being big while you’re holding props as well can be helpful because then you get used to, uh, you get, you get used to bringing the energy making gestures while you’re holding things. So, um, I am. I love this. Even anemia doesn’t slow her down.

Um, and I love, uh, someone said, I think it was Jordan about exercising before if I’m speaking somewhere and I speak at 9am, like I’m going to be up by five, even if it’s before just to make sure that I have like that four hours of just being awake. Um, You know, caffeine for me, uh, some people are like, got to get the coffee.

And then sometimes I’ll go like half calf before I speak because I don’t want to be like jittery up there. And definitely no carbonation. Yeah. Because I’ve burped into a microphone before and it is not, not the most great thing to recover from. That’s so true. It is. Yeah, it is. Uh, okay, I’m just looking.

There’s a lot of great tips in the chat. But, um, what I would love to do now is lead into our very fun announcement with some of you who are in Mic Drop Workshop or Mic Drop Academy. I’m looking at you, Catherine, and a couple more already know about this, but for those who don’t. Lindsay and I have a very exciting new program that we’re launching called Mic Drop Club.

So Mic Drop Club is the first women’s public speaking club designed to help women get confident at speaking month by month. I started Mic Drop Workshop like in my room. We have the pandemic. We’ve never done in person before, but so much about speaking and what we’re talking about is about repetition and getting things and going up there and practicing in low stakes, but supportive environments.

And so Lindsay and I have put together Mic Drop Club to help do meetups where women can meet, practice public speaking, get better at different skills month by month, and also just do it. with each other and have fun along the way. Um, so Jane is putting the link in the chat if you all want to see it. Um, but I know that we have some of you who are already registered and have already come to our pilot in Raleigh, which is awesome.

So who’s leading this? Lindsay, you’re going to kill me. I’m going to keep using this photo of you because it is my favorite photo of you. Um, of course you might know me, uh, Jess Eckstrom, founder of Mic Drop Workshop. Lindsay, uh, which this is my favorite photo of her. We’ll be running all of the virtual meetups that we have every month.

And she is also head of all of our hosts in our different cities. Um, and we see Rhonda has already signed up. Uh, and we have Becky who is already in. Love this. Michelle, I know you came to, um, our Raleigh one and I’m so glad that you liked it. Um, okay. And then you have city hosts. And so we have around like I think 10 different cities now that you can see on the site and our city hosts will be leading it as well.

Um, so we’ll meet monthly virtually, which Lindsay will be guiding you and those virtual sessions. Our next virtual meetup will be February 6th. And then we’ll be quarterly in person, so our next in person meetup will be, uh, in April. But even if you don’t have a chapter in your city, you can still join us, like, in April virtually.

So what’s coming up? We haveLindsey, you want to talk about this, actually? Yes.

[00:27:38] Lindsay Boccardo: Yes. Okay. So February, we’re going to be talking virtually about facial expressions. And even when you are on a zoom, this matters. And it’s actually a little more work to show facial expression when you’re staring technology in the face.

So we’re going to talk about that. And how important it is that your face matches your message, or it tells the audience how to feel about what you’re saying. It’s fascinating. And I’ll tell you what, the reason that Mic Drop Club is so potent is because if you just learn these skills and walk away, you won’t fully connect neurologically what’s happening.

But when you see your colleagues practicing this, you’re going to go, now I see the difference it makes. So facial expressions in February, March is eye contact. Can you believe, and do you believe, that eye contact even matters? virtually. We’re going to talk about the power of your gaze, where you put your eyes when you are doing a virtual presentation.

April, and we’re going to do this in a cadence where some of you will be able to be together in person at your city, and all of us will join virtually to review these skills. So every month when you’re learning a new skill, we have to stack like one or two. And then cluster them and practice them together, then staff one or two and practice them together.

Because if we just keep throwing new skills at you and never give you a time to kind of compile them, you’re going to have a hard time keeping it all on the cart and making it happen. So that’s why we have this spread out over the year like this. And then into May, we’ll be spending more time with gesture and posture.

This is very important. This is why I stand for almost all my virtual presentations. I’m standing right now, even though you might say, why are you doing that? You could be sitting. There’s a reason we’re going to talk about for me, not for everybody, but for why I do that. So you’re going to see every month you’re going to get clued in to the invisible threads that you pull behind the scenes to show up with more energy and expression than the next person.

And you’ll be blown away over the year. You’ll be able to see your own prep process as you practice these and have videos of yourself practicing, you’ll see the difference.

[00:29:43] Jess Ekstrom: And, I mean, just speaking from the Raleigh chapter that we just had for our pilot meetup, the speaking experience that you’re going to get is amazing, but the friendships and the network that has formed out of these have been incredible.

And so I am so excited for you all to sign up. I know that we have, um, let’s see, we have Susie that just joined, um, someone’s asking How to bring it to a city near you on the website, you can nominate a city, um, and we can see if we have any, uh, mic drop hosts in that city. Um, let’s see what else we have.

Rhonda in the New York City chapter. We have, um, Melissa, who is actually our first. Phoenix, uh, club host. So if you’re in Phoenix, you will be with Melissa, who is wonderful. And then, um, Dr. Sarah asked, is there a way we can sign up for more than one city? Sign up for the city that you would go most frequently to.

And then, um, you can also join, uh, just pop into other cities, but sign up for the one that you would most join. Um, okay. We have like Chicago, Boston, put Denver on the list, nominate it. We’ll see who we have. This right now is our founding member price point. And so it’ll go up February 6th after our first virtual in person.

Um, so be sure to register before then. We have new cities that are being added. Uh, so if you have ones that you want to nominate, be sure to let us know. And then if you are at a company, we also have a template on the site that helps you ask your boss or your manager to pay for this for you, because this should be a part of every company training.

And then if you’re also at a company and you want to bring this into your company in a specialized way that is specific to your employees, we can do that as well. So just reach out to us at club at mic drop workshop. com. But we are so excited. This is for women only. We want this to be a place not where we learn communication skills that are more masculine, but a way that we can learn about how do we lean into who we are as women?

What do women experience when it comes to communication and how can we stand up, step into our voice and get to where we want to go? Lindsay, any parting words?

[00:32:01] Lindsay Boccardo: I would just really encourage you. I think this is a season where a lot of us. because I work in the cor we feel a little isolated matter, you do matter.

Jo clubs so that you can hea coming out of your body a responding to it. This is For me, when I see what we did live together in person for our initial club, I see that the joy that it brought people, when you’re sharing and you’re practicing these skills, you’re also telling people about you as a human, and you’re going to find these other sisters, these quick friends who are on your team who can cheer you on to use your voice.

So I know that’s so important to you, Jess, that we use our voice as women in the world right now. And this is a way that you can flex this in a safe, supportive environment. So. I would just really encourage you if you’re on the edge, just try it with us. See what you think. I think you’re going to have a really awesome experience that builds your confidence.

[00:32:58] Jess Ekstrom: Yes, and this is something that we are building as we go. And so it is just going to get better from here. And the more you attend, the more skills you’ll stack on since we’re focusing on one skill per month. Um, a couple of questions that I see in the chat. Uh, can you move if you pick a city and a new one is added?

Yep, you can just email us and let us know. So just go ahead and register for, um, either just the virtual option or your closest city. Julie asked where you’re seeing the in person locations on the site. Um, you can drop down it’ll ask if you want monthly or virtual and then it’ll ask your location. If you don’t see a location that’s close to you, you can just pick the virtual option and we’ll be sure to alert you when new locations are added.

Um, but yeah, we will see you all February 6th. for our first virtual meetup. Thank you so much for tuning in and high fives all around. And Jack just woke up from his nap. So perfect timing.

[00:33:53] Lindsay Boccardo: Fantastic. Yes. Bye everyone.